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		<title>The Pardox of Social Impairment and Profound Social Disconnectedness</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is an inherent and burdening paradox within the reality of being an adult with Asperger’s Syndrome. Central to the most devastatingly-challenging reality of Asperger’s Syndrome is its synergistic social impairment intrinsic to or juxtaposed to a profound social disconnectedness.


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: justify;">There is an inherent and burdening paradox within the reality of being an adult with Asperger’s Syndrome. Central to the most devastatingly-challenging reality of Asperger’s Syndrome is its synergistic social impairment intrinsic to or juxtaposed to a profound social disconnectedness.   </p>
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<hr />A.J.&#8217;s March 2010 &#8211; Aspie Confession &#8211; Personal Update &#8211; <a href="http://aspergeradults.ca/Blog/2010/03/march-2010-update-to-the-pardox-of-social-impairment-and-profound-social-disconnectedness/" target="_blank">CLICK HERE</a> to read it.</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">The intricate labyrinth of this paradox exists within the assumption that a <em>social impairment</em> in and of itself, however that is defined and experienced in each individual (AS) life is tantamount to <em>social disconnectedness</em>   </p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Gregory B. Yates, in his writing, “A Topological Theory of Autism,” &#8211; the website &#8211; www.autismtheory.org/topotheory.html explains that the three founders of “autism”, Eugen Bleuler, Leo Kanner, and Hans Asperger, <em>“clearly saw other features of autism as secondary to social disconnectedness.”</em> and emphasizes that this disconnectedness <em>“…is the central, eponymous feature of autism it is the primary feature…”&#8211; “it is social disconnectedness that most defines autism…”</em>   </p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">The degree to which there are differences, generally, between autism and Asperger’s Syndrome (AS), more specifically, in terms of this social disconnectedness varies greatly with each individual. It has been my experience that the manifestation of this social impairment and social disconnectedness also varies greatly between those with more classic forms of autism as opposed to those with Asperger’s Syndrome (AS). Even within those with AS the extent to which this paradoxical synergetic syndrome is present depends upon many individual factors including age of diagnosis, intervention, support, counselling and general educational intervention.   </p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">I experience this social disconnectedness, as an adult with Asperger’s Syndrome (AS), in ways that I imagine are more difficult for me and others like me than they may be for those with more classic autism. It is the awareness that one has with AS that often brings with it a more painful <strong>lack of connection</strong>. Many, like myself, with AS, to varying degrees, have strong desires to try to be as social as we can. This is, however, coalesced with what is an equally strong aversion to being social.   </p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">This paradox of simultaneously desiring and feeling aversion to social connectedness is born out of a lifetime of difficult and painful experiences in the social realm coupled with a lack of understanding and difficulty in truly being able to feel a sense of joining in what others are experiencing as a shared experience.   </p>
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<hr />A.J.&#8217;s March 2010 &#8211; Aspie Confession &#8211; Personal Update &#8211; <a href="http://aspergeradults.ca/Blog/2010/03/march-2010-update-to-the-pardox-of-social-impairment-and-profound-social-disconnectedness/" target="_blank">CLICK HERE</a> to read it.</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">I am keenly aware, in the social realm, that while I have learned to do many things that one is <em>supposed to do</em> from all accounts and appearances I do not experience them in the same way that neuro-typicals (NTs) do. There is still this feeling of not totally understanding the <em>feeling</em> experience of the <em>shared</em> social experience. This reality is accompanied by the anxiety and the stress (overload to my system) that much of this activity produces within me. To state it outright and forthrightly, I do not derive joy from anything social.   </p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">My experience of joy is very much a <em>by myself internalized proposition</em>. Knowing this can be, at times, a source of frustration and pain. Even when I am <em>social</em> I am not really totally there. It’s difficult to explain this but as Yates explains, <em>“Autistic people live like <strong>Tantalus*</strong>, with the fluent social interaction of others suspended before their eyes, out of reach.”</em> I can relate to this. To try to actually join in and feel a <em>shared experience socially</em> is like reaching for forbidden fruit that moves ever so slightly back every time I reach up and forward toward it. I have been in many a social situation where I do just end up observing because the social interaction of others is suspended out there before me and for me is out of reach in terms of experiencing it the way that others appear to be and report experiencing shared meaningful times that fill them up. Trying to socialize, which I don’t mind in small doses, despite the pain of it all, for me is so stressful most of the time that unlike my NT friends empties me out leaving me just wanting to retreat back into my own world.   </p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">The fact that most NT&#8217;s describe socializing as being a &#8220;filling up&#8221; experience that adds something to them and I know that it is the opposite for me, I don&#8217;t see this as needing to be defined as anything else aside from a profound difference after its recognition.   </p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Yates continues with the assertion that, <em>“Social disconnectedness is the horse of autism: Secondary features are baggage in its cart.”</em>   </p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Not everything about this social disconnectedness is experienced as baggage. That said, I think it would be highly negating if I were to say that this disconnectedness doesn’t in fact leave an adult with AS with some baggage. It does.   </p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">The most difficult aspect of this baggage, which I’m sure varies with each adult with AS, though having, no doubt, some common themes, is that we are left to fend for ourselves with it. There are (with rare exceptions) no services for adults with Asperger’s Syndrome.   </p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">In my own experience, the mental health issues and co-morbid issues that can exist with AS and its incumbent or subsequent baggage, are not effectively being dealt with by traditional Mental Health delivery systems. While there are some therapists who will assist adults with AS they are not accessible to those without the funds and even then they are rare as most, if not all resources are currently focused on children with autism and/or Asperger’s Syndrome.   </p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Today’s children are going to be tomorrow’s adults. The baggage that they will encounter as adults will still be sitting here, as is mine and that of other adults with AS. I continue to not understand the lack of services for adults and for those who are transitioning from adolescents to adulthood with all its more complicated issues.   </p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">I must stress here too that not all that AS brings to my life is about baggage. In the arena of social disconnectedness and trying to navigate the world of <strong>social beings</strong> however, yes, I have some baggage that I am continually aware of, working through, and trying to come to terms with. In this area, this baggage does impinge upon my self-acceptance, still, though I’m getting through that more now too. This is the reality of a paradox that adults with AS must not only live with but wrestle with in order to not be left feeling <em>less than</em>. This is why I stress that we are <strong>differently abled</strong> as opposed to the common societal stereotypical assessment that we are just <strong><em>disabled</em></strong>   </p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Yates also asserts, <em>“While some secondary features of autism are unpleasant, in a social world one autistic trait is truly devastating. That is autism’s defining characteristic itself &#8212; social disconnectedness.</em>   </p>
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<hr />A.J.&#8217;s March 2010 &#8211; Aspie Confession &#8211; Personal Update &#8211; <a href="http://aspergeradults.ca/Blog/2010/03/march-2010-update-to-the-pardox-of-social-impairment-and-profound-social-disconnectedness/" target="_blank">CLICK HERE</a> to read it.</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">I have found this trait quite devastating. While I continue to make progress in terms of what I have learned about mapping my social efforts I continue to find them often as painful as they are anything else. I am still in the process of dealing with this fact. The fact that I have to live with a high degree of <em>social disconnectedness</em> that I have enough insight about to feel saddened by at times. It is here, I have learned, that my self-acceptance depends upon my ability to continue to learn and grow in my ability to use compensatory strategies to meet my needs in the adult arena of relating.   </p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Yates states that, <em>“Autistic people vary in their desire for social interaction. However, even those who do not desire social contact can be devastated by its lack, for thriving in human society depends on social ability.”</em>   </p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">I agree totally with Yates here. I have known other adults with Asperger’s Syndrome. I’ve seen vast differences between them and myself in many respects. I’ve also noticed that there are numerous and vast differences between men and women with Asperger’s as well. (More on this in an up-coming article)   </p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">I have been devastated by “its lack”. The lack of socialization in my life. By what remains (or certainly feels like) despite my best and most fervent efforts to socialize, relate, and be available in my primary relationship, a feeling of disconnectedness that often brings me back to a familiar pain that like a brick wall sitting between me and the world of social ability, has and continues to affect my thriving in the way in which most people define and value <em>thriving</em>   </p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">All is not lost here however. I am a great believer that even when diagnosed with AS in adulthood, as I was at the age of 40, we can make progress. I have learned a great deal. I continue to learn to compensate and to let those closest to me know what I need in order to be able to build bridges to them and have them build meaningful relational bridges to me.   </p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">I also believe that despite not experiencing a kind of <em>social ability that clearly indicates thriving to our human society,</em> I am thriving and will continue to build upon this thriving in my own way as defined by my own understanding, needs, wants, and my continued dedication to straddle what is at times a very unforgiving <a href="http://www.aspergeradults.ca/asbuildbridges.html">philosophical paradox</a>.   </p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">What is defined as social impairment, again, can be construed as <em>disabled</em> or contrastingly as <strong>differently abled</strong>. One must take to task the notion that we are all <em>supposed to be the same</em> or that we all must have the same values and capacity in the social realm.   </p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Having Asperger&#8217;s and knowing it should be a gateway to understanding not some societally imposed <strong>label</strong> that implies <em>lack</em> and that sees that <em>lack</em> pathologized.   </p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">It is my hope and my intention the more I come to understand my Asperger reality and the more I write about it that my readers will come to appreciate the differences that manifest in many ways that are the indicators of difference in brain functioning. That NT brain wiring is not superior to the brain wiring of those with Asperger&#8217;s and visa versa. This is all about difference and more specifically, acceptance of that difference and allowing each group of people to live as they must and flourish as they will.   </p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">To this end, coming out of this most basic difference in social <em>ability</em> and social connectedness or <em>defined disconnectedness</em> it is my hope that the system and parents of children with AS will stop believing and insisting on trying to <em>normalize</em> the autism/asperger&#8217;s out of their children. We are born the way we are for good reason. Let society expand its definition and understanding of worth, and change itself, and stop requiring that those of us on the autistic spectrum change or have to fit the NT mold in order to matter, to be functional, and to be <em>able</em>. We are very gifted and talented in our own ways. Who we are needs to be &#8220;good enough&#8221;. It needs to be &#8220;good enough&#8221; firstly to parents, secondly to society and equally to each adult diagnosed and left to fend for themselves, with Asperger&#8217;s, in adulthood.   </p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">We need bridges of understanding to and from each other. We do not need to be the same. We are all okay as we are, differences and all.   </p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><em>© A.J. Mahari February 2005 </em>   </p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">•Tantalus &#8211; (Greek mythology) a wicked king and son of Zeus; condemned in Hades to stand in water that receded when he tried to drink and beneath fruit that receded when he reached for it. (Source: <a href="http://www.dictionary.com">www.dictionary.com</a>)   </p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: justify;">There are many challenges experienced by people with Asperger&#8217;s Syndrome. Many of these challenges are heightened in the area of socialization. Each person with Asperger&#8217;s Syndrome has his or her own set of unique challenges despite the common traits associated with the diagnosis. One of the main challenges for adults with Asperger&#8217;s is just to be able to become aware of what the challenges and differences of having Asperger&#8217;s (AS) are. Some with AS are more able to be made aware of and learn about these differences and the compensatory strategies that can help.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">The most central challenge of being an adult with Asperger&#8217;s Syndrome is self-acceptance. Closely followed by radically accepting what having AS means in terms of being different from those who don&#8217;t have AS &#8211; neuro-typicals (NT&#8217;s).</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">It is important to realize that as aspie&#8217;s it can seem like there is this NT-everyone else out there, as if all NT&#8217;s are alike or as if all NT&#8217;s have the same abilities or levels of functions &#8211; they aren&#8217;t all alike and they don&#8217;t all have the same level of function at all.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">It can seem like you are marginalized if you have AS, and even moreso for women with AS. The truth about that is just that there are more NT&#8217;s than there are those of us with Asperger&#8217;s. Having a practical radical acceptance of how that tends to create and for some support their stereotypes can mean giving yourself the gift of not twisting yourself into an upset pretzel at that the reality that you are different from someone who is NT. We have to remember that the differences aren&#8217;t all stacked against us. In fact, having Asperger&#8217;s does mean having some unique skills and in most cases a very high IQ.</p>
<p>©  A.J. Mahari, February 1, 2010 &#8211; All rights reserved.</p>


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		<description><![CDATA[Many people who know people with Asperger's Syndrome, or have someone with Asperger's Syndrome (AS) in their families write me exhausted and exasperated as to what to do to help the person with AS in their lives. Can you help someone with Asperger's or is the help just perceived as too stressful and too intrusive? Do you feel frustrated and like your every effort to help the person with Asperger's in your life just makes things worse? As a life coach, it has become apparent to me that this is a common experience for many a neuro-typical (NT).


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: justify;">Many people who know people with Asperger&#8217;s Syndrome, or have someone with Asperger&#8217;s Syndrome (AS) in their families write me exhausted and exasperated as to what to do to help the person with AS in their lives. Can you help someone with Asperger&#8217;s or is the help just perceived as too stressful and too intrusive? Do you feel frustrated and like your every effort to help the person with Asperger&#8217;s in your life just makes things worse? As a life coach, it has become apparent to me that this is a common experience for many a neuro-typical (NT).</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Neuro-typicals need to understand that they really cannot truly know what it is like to have Asperger&#8217;s Syndrome. That&#8217;s a good place to start. Sound too simplistic or obvious? It is an important distinction to keep in mind because you might think you are offering someone with Asperger&#8217;s help based upon what you would experience as being helpful.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">What most neuro-typicals find helpful or recognize as support is, more often than not, not the same for people with Asperger&#8217;s. If you approach the person with AS in your life from your own perspective without consideration of the differences in perspective, experience, and interpretation of those with AS the results will often yield more frustration for both parties involved.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">It is also important to not put your own expectations upon your loved one or friend with AS. For many people with AS the help, caring, and/or support of others feels intrusive to them. It can be experienced as being a major stressor. It can lead a person with AS to retreat more inside of him or herself as a reaction to the ways they know they are different. The very things you may be stressing in trying to help may in fact leave the person with Asperger&#8217;s feeling judged or criticized because they do not have a common reference point with you from which to share in the reality that you care and are trying to help them. </p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">As someone with Asperger&#8217;s who continues to push all my limits in learning and mapping aspects of life and relating where I have a different ability &#8211; commonly referred as &#8220;disability&#8221; by NT&#8217;s, I myself, have experienced others trying to help me at times when there wasn&#8217;t any help they could really give me. We didn&#8217;t have a shared perspective, understanding, or strong enough commonality in our experience for a meeting of the minds that could prove to be beneficial versus frustrating. I have also experienced people trying to help me over the years in ways that were about trying to change who I am and how I function. That doesn&#8217;t anger or bother me but I have learned that I have to point out that what I do and how I do it, just because it is different, doesn&#8217;t mean I&#8217;m doing something wrong. I&#8217;m sure there are easier ways or more organized ways to do many things but they aren&#8217;t things that fit the way my mind works &#8211; they just don&#8217;t jive with how I think and what will work for me.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">I&#8217;m sure the same could happen in reverse. If i were to try to help out a friend of mine, offering advice let&#8217;s say, about something that they do and how they approach it or do it, and gave my NT friend aspie methods of doing things how could I reasonably expect that they would change the way that they think and experience the world to fit my Asperger ways? That would prove frustrating for both me and my friend.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Help and support aren&#8217;t the same thing. Support is often met with less stress and anxiety than efforts to help. If you are a neuro-typical and you are thinking about helping the person with AS in your life ask yourself, what your goals are. What are you trying to accomplish and why? Is it for the aspie or more for you? Are you invested, perhaps without realizing it, in having the person with AS in your life be more like a neuro-typical?</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">This is an example of an unrealistic expectation that will leave you frustrated in trying help and that will leave the person with AS feeling intruded upon and/or stressed out by your efforts to help. Often when you want to help you want to see change from someone else rather than changing the way you approach a person or situation.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Sometimes the best &#8220;help&#8221; is accepting the person with Asperger&#8217;s in your life for who he or she is. NT&#8217;s will benefit from education themselves about Asperger&#8217;s Syndrome generally. They will also benefit from going one step further in asking the person with AS in their life about him or her specifically because each person with Asperger&#8217;s is an individual. We aren&#8217;t all the same. We don&#8217;t all have every trait or listed manifestation of what Asperger&#8217;s is stereotypically described to be and mean.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Differences that aren&#8217;t accepted will continue to fuel exhaustion and exasperation. Those feelings are generated in those trying to &#8220;help&#8221; who are really seeking to change someone into thinking, being, doing, acting like they do &#8211; in other words &#8211; trying to get someone with Asperger&#8217;s to act as if or find a way to be neuro-typical. It just doesn&#8217;t work.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong>©  A.J. Mahari, January 4, 2010 &#8211; All rights reserved.</strong></p>
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		<title>There Are So Many Paths</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Asperger's Syndrome is a journey within the over-all journey of life. For those of us diagnosed as adults the journey may have a few added challenges to it. Life is a journey, not a destination. Within this journey there are as many paths that lead to connecting points, junctures of mutual understanding, as there are people living lives. This applies whether you have Asperger’s Syndrome or whether you are a neurotypcial (NT). So, you see, we do have something in common after all. There are many different paths and individual differences among those diagnosed with Asperger's as well. I believe that along with these individual and personal differences are interwoven the many distinctive ways that AS manifests or is evident in males and females. 



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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: justify;">Asperger&#8217;s Syndrome is a journey within the over-all journey of life. For those of us diagnosed as adults the journey may have a few added challenges to it. Life is a journey, not a destination. Within this journey there are as many paths that lead to connecting points, junctures of mutual understanding, as there are people living lives.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">This applies whether you have Asperger’s Syndrome or whether you are a neurotypcial (NT). So, you see, we do have something in common after all.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><a href="http://aspergeradults.ca/Blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/path.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-141" title="path" src="http://aspergeradults.ca/Blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/path.jpg" alt="" width="192" height="128" /></a>There are many different paths and individual differences among those diagnosed with Asperger&#8217;s as well. I believe that along with these individual and personal differences are interwoven the many distinctive ways that AS manifests or is evident in males and females.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Just as there are a plethora of differences between those of us with Asperger’s and those who are NT, there are at least that many differences between each one of us with AS. While we share many traits in common and are thusly identified and diagnosed as having AS this does not make us anymore all the same then all NT’s are all the same just because they are neurotypical.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">There are so many paths. There are paths that we choose to take, in life, and there are some paths that are chosen for us. I see having Asperger’s Syndrome as a path that was chosen for me. It is a reality that has taken much but that has also given much and promises to give much more to me in the future. A road or path less traveled apparently. It is a path that encompasses a journey very far from ordinary. Having AS presents challenges that highlight and only serve to strengthen my most inquisitive resolve. Difficult to explain. Complicated to live with and process. Interesting to call upon in all the social/relational situations in which I am impacted the most by it.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">I have been told by professionals that AS is actually the source of a lot of my strength and that as I continually seek to profoundly understand myself and how to relate to the NT world better there are ways that I can take this path and have it be an enhancing experience. I am just beginning to tap into this now as my self-acceptance continues to grow. This is a newly formed realization and belief of mine now based upon enough NT input combined with my own AS understanding. This is a testament, for me, to the reality that there are so many paths. I think ever since I was diagnosed I had a mindset that there was only one path or one way and that was the NT way. I had believed that any other way was <em>less than, flawed, dsyfunctional, and abnormal.</em></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">It is so freeing to be opening much wider to seeing my path and journey in life as valid in and of itself. I am able to do this now because I can esteem myself for who I am the way that I am. I no longer feel like I have to apologize or make excuses for who I am or how I am. I don&#8217;t feel or believe that I am in any way <em>less than</em> because I am not NT.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Finally, the soothingly-sustaining entrance opening up paths not realized in my previously tormented and pent-up existence.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">I have also been told by professionals that I am “very high functioning”. Okay, well, I am still trying to figure out if this is a good thing or a bad thing. Truthfully, I realize there are many blessings in being high functioning. It is my experience that there are also considerable challenges associated with this reality, this path, this way of being AS in an NT world. It is not without heart-wrenching pain. The pain of knowing one is <em>other, outside, different, </em>and being profoundly aware of all the times in the social/relational NT context I simply <em><strong>don’t get it</strong>. In the past it has been disgustingly devastating to me over and over again that no amount of applied intellectual prowess on my part has been able to ameliorate what I refer to as asperger lostness. </em></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">It seems clear right now though that I stand on the precarious precipice of evolving edgy contradiction &#8211; correlating my high functioning AS path with the indefatigable paths of the NT world of existence, connection, and communication. I feel compelled to continue to push my limits.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Through this ardent approach to the challenging of my limits I have found that there are a myriad of archetypal paths to be discovered and synthesized as I now consciously travel this barren wasteland, this seeming vacuum of void, this largely collectively unmapped adaptation of paradoxical dualistic survival by creating my own algorithms.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">The algorithms that are relevant to my enterprisingly energetic exposure to all that is non-aspie-like are step-by-step problem-solving procedures that I am continually processing and mapping out to assist me in developing a stronger sense of the lay of the land on planet NT. Specifically the lay of the social/relating land.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">In my qualitative quest I am now buoyed by my new understanding, and more importantly, my new acceptance of the fact that I, being on the autistic spectrum and having AS, need to acquire my knowledge base and working understanding of socializing and relating cognitively. I am not able to acquire it or understand it through observation, or the trial and error that NT’s learn social skills by. What a pivotal piece of the over-all ever-unfolding puzzle this is for me. It seems and feels strange and yet it is a huge relief to finally <em>get this.</em></p>
<p>Clearly, there are so many paths each of us can choose to travel that will facilitate our connecting and communicating capacity and capability.</p>
<p>© A.J. Mahari, March 1, 2005</p>


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		<title>Real Freedom in Asperger&#8217;s Born Out of Living Outside the NT Box</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJ Mahari</dc:creator>
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<div style="text-align: justify;">Adults with Asperger’s Sydrome (AS) really know what it is to live life and to exist, be and differently function outside of the Neuro-Typcial (NT) box which is all-too-often held up as the measure by which we all must be held to standard. It is the measure used to determine value and worth, success and failure. It is the box that traps the NT and those with AS live much richer lives and should not be tarnished with this brush of judgment.</div>
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<p>Monism, which is the doctrine that mind and matter are formed from, or reducible to, the same ultimate substance or principle of being, can be assimilated into an understanding of what it is like to be an adult with Asperger’s Syndrome (AS). It speaks to the reality that life is not some “other defined box” into which we must all fit. We, as beings, within this human realm with all of its incumbent nature cannot and should not be reduced to a single principle or way of being.</p>
<p>Human nature to varying degrees conditions human knowledge. Knowledge is inherently derived from what we are taught and what we experience. It can also be postulated that knowledge is also derived from our intuition, our spiritual essence. How we learn, how we process, how we experience concepts, precepts, and datum drive the ways in which we come to a working and ongoing understanding of ourselves and the world around us.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.geocities.com/ashokktiwari/freedom.html" target="_blank">Ashok Tiwari</a> – in <strong>“Real Freedom, A Philosophical View&#8221;</strong>, on his website asserts that, <em>“Monism does not see, behind man&#8217;s actions, the purposes of a supreme directorate, foreign to him and determining him according to its will, but rather sees that men, in so far as they realize their intuitive ideas, pursue only their own human ends. Moreover, each individual pursues his own particular ends. For the world of ideas comes to expression, not in a community of men, but only in human individuals. What appears as the common goal of a whole group of people is only the result of the separate acts of will of its individual members…”</em></p>
<p>So, what I am driving at here is simply this: People with Asperger’s Syndrome (AS) live outside the box of the “whole group”, or society in general. This is seen, viewed, and defined by most as being “less than” and/or dysfunctional. When, in truth, what this really means is that those with AS are living lives that are of a different nature than those who are neuro-typical (NT). What the majority, in this case, NT’s, have in common, is all-too-often (if not always) seen and defined as “normal” leaving anyone, anything, or any difference in values, morals, goals, life choices, paths in life and so forth being categorized as unsuccessful or not valuable in accordance with a monistic view that rejects the metaphysical philosophy of freedom.</p>
<p><strong>Freedom like a stone, in the eyes of some perhaps, but freedom nonetheless.</strong></p>
<p>We are only as free, in this world, as our thoughts and understanding will allow us to be. Those of us with Asperger’s are in some ways freer than the average NT who ascribes wholly to the datum which espouses the kind of like-mindedness required to chase the 9-5 definition of both functionality and success.</p>
<p>To live outside of this cherished box is seen as the equivalent of being a failure. To society, it is defined as failing to do what an adult is supposed to do. It is viewed as a disability. I have struggled with this freedom-robbing reality all of my life. I am just now coming to a place of burgeoning freedom, understanding, and personal acceptance. I am coming to truly accept what it means to have Asperger’s Syndrome, the good, the bad, and the ugly. I am now a strong believer in the inherent difference between how I process information, view the world, function, contribute to the world around me, play my part, accomplish, and so forth, as an individual. No doubt that the Asperger way is much more unique (often seen as “weird”) but it is nonetheless totally a worthy and valuable way of being firstly, being in the world secondly, of processing information thirdly, and fourthly of relating.</p>
<p>If some of us didn’t live outside of the box, whatever you define that box to be, how would the rest of you come to know that box so well? I don’t judge those who live in the box so why judge me for not living there?</p>
<p>It is the inability that I have to be a part of the masses in many ways that actually is valuable and makes me tick so to speak. The reality of the metaphysical masses assumes that reality is a unified whole and that all existing things can be ascribed to or described by a single concept or system. A single way of doing things. A single way of being in the world – being social – being driven by a set of common values, morals, and a code of conduct.</p>
<p>Those of us with Asperger’s Syndrome, to varying degrees, live outside of this single way conceiving, thinking, understanding, acquiring knowledge, functioning or being. This reality does not make us any less. In fact, many would argue it makes us a whole lot more. It makes us more individual. We walk to the beat of our own drummers. Not all that is eccentric is negative. Not all that is not part of the main is negative.</p>
<p>Those of us with AS have a different nature. We have to be true to our natures just as NT’s have to be true to their natures. To all adults, like me, with Asperger’s I say, be sure to celebrate your differences and not get caught up in the “I’m supposed to be like everyone else” kind of thinking. There truly is not, despite the rhetoric spouted from so many areas of life, any everyone else, at all.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.autismtheory.org/topotheory.html" target="_blank">Gregory B. Yates</a>, in his writing, <strong>“A Topological Theory of Autism,”</strong> says <em>“Autism emerges as a major feature of brain evolution: It is generally not a disease. Autism has been with humans as long as humans have been and has marked human history.”</em></p>
<p>Yates makes it clear that the central defining feature of autism is social disconnectedness. Yates points out that, “The name “autism” derives from the Greek word “auto” for self, and proclaims the apparent mental involution or self-absorption of autistic people.”</p>
<p>As one who has to a certain degree experienced (and I continue to experience) what Yates describes as an “apparent mental involution” along with a dose of “self-absorption” I do not agree that how these are from the inside out are the same as how they are defined from those on the outside, looking in and trying to understand.</p>
<p>There is an awesome gift in the form of AS mental involution. I experience that gift in many different ways not the least of which is the way that I crave and process information.</p>
<p>I would also assert that not all that is involuted is negative either. Just as all that is exuded is not all positive or negative.</p>
<p>Just as the words of Ashok Tiwari, in <strong>“Real Freedom, A Philosophical View,</strong> <em>“…men, in so far as they realize their intuitive ideas, pursue only their own human ends. Moreover, each individual pursues his own particular ends. For the world of ideas comes to expression, not in a community of men, but only in human individuals…”</em> point out self-absorption is not reserved only for those who are autistic of have Asperger’s but is to some degree a part of the human condition.</p>
<p>What then, I ask, is the difference between the pursuits of those with Asperger’s, such as myself, for example, and the pursuits of others? Though some want to make these worlds or realities so different I postulate that there is more similarity than difference.</p>
<p>Being in one’s own world, to whatever degree one is socially disconnected, or different, can be one of the most single freeing experiences that a human being can hope to atta<br />
in. Not all that glitters is gold. Just as not all that appears to be negative or is judged as negative or a lack is in fact the negative lack of anything.</p>
<p>Conversely, what I know about Asperger’s Syndrome from the inside out is that the reverse is actually true more often than not. What professionals and others deem to be such lack of functioning (which is really more to speak to a lack of “fitting in”) is for me the antithesis, of free-thinking, freedom of self-expression, a very strong ability not only to process information but to assimilate it and take things further than most give effort to thinking about in a 9-5 box.</p>
<p>Living outside the box has its inherent burdens but the benefits, in my experience, far outweigh them.</p>
<p>As an adult with Asperger’s Syndrome the freedom that exists outside the box is profound and cherished. As I keep pushing the limits of my box-free existence I continue to find more and more to celebrate and less and less to feel inadequate about.</p>
<p>Feelings of inadequacy often arise out of taking on the imposed &#8220;should-be&#8217;s&#8221; of others. They can also exist and be painful if one continues to believe that having Asperger&#8217;s and what that means in terms of being different makes one &#8220;less than&#8221;. Feeling &#8220;less than&#8221; is often a response to the negative experiences that accumulate when difference is not met with acceptance or understanding.</p>
<p>This process of self-acceptance is very much about not buying into the &#8220;party line&#8221;. Know that what appears to be the &#8220;common goal of the whole group&#8221; or a norm of our collective culture is really underneath it all a reflection of a mass mentality that seeks to undo the inherent essence of spiritual being &#8212; and our freedom to be as individual and different as we want to be or need to be in what it means to just be who one is.</p>
<p>© Ms. A.J. Mahari January 11, 2005 &#8211; with additions February 13, 2009 &#8211; All rights reserved.</p></div>


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		<description><![CDATA[Neuro-Typicals (NTs) often wonder if those with Asperger's Syndrome really feel love for others. As someone with Asperger's Syndrome (AS), in my own experience, I think that what is more at issues isn't so much what someone with AS feels or doesn't feel but can they communicate what they feel or do not feel in a way that NTs can understand.



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<p>Neuro-Typicals (NTs) often wonder if those with Asperger&#8217;s Syndrome really feel love for others. As someone with Asperger&#8217;s Syndrome (AS), in my own experience, I think that what is more at issues isn&#8217;t so much what someone with AS feels or doesn&#8217;t feel but can they communicate what they feel or do not feel in a way that NTs can understand.</p>
<p>Recola, who has an aspie boyfriend and posted in the discussion area of <a href="http://aspergeradults.ca/board" target="_blank">Aspergeradults.ca Forum</a> describing some difficulty encountered with her aspie boyfriend. She described his not being there for her in times of needing emotional support and understanding when she needs space due to her own stresses and/or his not fully understanding her need for space when she feels this way.</p>
<p>She asked this question: <em>“Do Aspies really feel love for others or do they just stay with people who give them a comfort level?”</em> and described that her aspie boyfriend seems to take leave of the relationship when she is depressed and that things seem to switch from him professing his love for her to him saying to her that <em>&#8220;You need a helpful loving person, someone who can get you through those tough times that you have. I don&#8217;t have the energy for that&#8221;.</em></p>
<p>The first thing I want to make really clear in response to this is that each and every person with Asperger’s Syndrome (AS) has their own individual responses to life, to the stress of relating. Each individual person with Asperger’s has varying degrees of understanding of “other”. Whether or not Recola’s boyfriend can actually understand what her stresses or feelings of depression are like and what she needs and why or not is not clear. He may well not be able to empathize. Some people with AS lack empathy. Some have empathy and can’t express it. Some both have empathy and express it in their own ways.</p>
<p>It is important to remain cognizant of the fact that each and every situation for those who are involved in relationships with those with AS is somewhat individually different. There is no blanket statement to be made that every aspie will do this or that or not be able to do this or that relationally.</p>
<p>Asperger’s Syndrome is indeed a complication to many aspects of relating generally and specifically in interpersonal relationships for most. I believe that those of us with AS can learn to compensate for<br />
that which we don’t understand very well. We can learn how to meet our partner’s needs, or at the very least how not to stress them more when they are facing emotional turmoil or other life challenges.</p>
<p>To the question posed, <em>“Do Aspies really feel love for others or do they just stay with people who give them a comfort level?”</em> forgive me for sounding like a broken record when I say that it is such an individual thing. There is no lumping us all together generally or when It comes to the ability (or perhaps lack thereof) to relate to a significant other. What it sounds like the aspie described by this poster to the discussion area of this topic is struggling with is lack of emotional reciprocity. This may well be because he, like many with AS, has mind blindness, which is described through the “Theory of Mind”</p>
<p>Theory of mind, or mind blindness is an impairment that those with AS must learn to compensate for to one degree or another in order to maintain heathy and functional relationships with those who are Neuro-typical (NT).</p>
<p>Those with AS may lack the ability to be able to consider, understand, and cope with other people’s thoughts and feelings. There may be times when an aspie may have a degree of understanding but not have found a way to communicate that understanding in a way that an NT would readily comprehend.</p>
<p>This reality can lead to difficulties in the areas of trying to comprehend the intentions, motivations, and subsequent actions and feelings of others.</p>
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<li><a href="http://phoenixrisingpublications.ca/item.php?itemId=80&amp;category=6" target="_blank">Inside My Asperger&#8217;s Experience</a></li>
<li><a href="http://phoenixrisingpublications.ca/item.php?itemId=43&amp;category=7" target="_blank">Asperger&#8217;s Syndrome and Adulthood From The Inside Out Ebook</a></li>
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<hr />If you are in a relationship with someone with Asperger&#8217;s you must remember that NT&#8217;s and those with AS do not share similiar ways of processing information and/or communicating. So to highten the chances of successful communication each must be willing to be patient in hearing the other.</p>
<p>People with AS may also lack understanding of their own emotions and/or the emotions of others. This often manifests as a lack of empathy.</p>
<p>At times any lack of understanding of emotions, one&#8217;s own or those of others, can be the result of the time it takes aspies to process information. Sometimes, just allowing the person with AS a little more time will help him or her to identify what they feel or to understand more about what an NT feels.</p>
<p>There are compensatory strategies that can build strength and more understanding to decrease the impact and potential negative effects this impairment. This has been my experience. However, that said, not all aspie’s will be able to make these efforts or even desire to consider making these efforts to learn to bridge the emotional and social gaps between themselves and those who are NT.</p>
<p>To answer the question then, I believe that aspies really do love others in their own way. What that <em>way</em> ends up being, looks like or consists of varies. As an aspie who has stretched and grown in compensatory ways in this area myself I know that in my own case I am not seeking to be in a relationship in the search for some comfort level. Comfort is often elusive and over-shadowed by the anxiety that presents when I am relating to my partner. So to the degree that any aspie seeks to be in relationship to another (and especially an other who is NT) I believe that in most cases this would be from a place of love – love as the aspie understands it which may be quite different and much more limited than an NT understanding and experience of love.</p>
<p>When Recola’s aspie boyfriend says he doesn’t have the <em>energy</em> to cope with her emotional state or needs this may be the product to some degree of mind blindness. It may also have a lot to do with the stress that dealing with emotions causes many with AS.</p>
<p>The bottom line here for Recola, or anyone who is NT in a relationship with someone with AS is that you have to decide what you need. You have to clearly ask yourself what you can and cannot live with.</p>
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<li><a href="http://phoenixrisingpublications.ca/item.php?itemId=80&amp;category=6" target="_blank">Inside My Asperger&#8217;s Experience</a></li>
<li><a href="http://phoenixrisingpublications.ca/item.php?itemId=43&amp;category=7" target="_blank">Asperger&#8217;s Syndrome and Adulthood From The Inside Out Ebook</a></li>
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<hr />I would encourage each individual NT in relationship to a person with AS to also consider just where on the spectrum their desired significant other is. I say this because I know from my own experience as a <em>high functioning aspie</em> that I can be taught how to respond to what my partner needs. I continue to educate myself and to challenge myself to learn and grow and adapt the best I can. My partner continues to learn how to best cope with the areas that present difficulties for her and then we both work at communicating and understanding each other.</p>
<p>I do not believe that aspies just stay with people who give them a comfort level because the <em>exposure anxiety</em> and general stress involved in relating are often formidable and for most I believe would be (as in my case) motivated by very real feelings of love. The territory that those with AS have to navigate to express love and to cope with relating is very different from the terrain traveled by those who are NT.</p>
<p>These relationships, between those with AS and NT&#8217;s require continued effort on both people’s part to address the challenges that will present themselves and it is crucial to understand that all that a couple seeks to mirror to and for each other within a relationship will be two very distinct reflected images presented in very differing styles of relating, communicating, and emotional expression.</p>
<p>It is therefore very important that assumptions aren&#8217;t made &#8220;facts&#8221;. Each person, and perhaps even more so the NT in the relationship need to clarify and re-clarify things in order to accurately understand the feelings and intentions of his or her partner.</p>
<p>© Ms. <a href="http://ajmahari.ca" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">A.J. Mahari</span></a> April 12, 2005 with addition on February 7, 2009 &#8211; All rights reserved.</p>
<hr />A.J. Mahari is a <a href="http://www.touchstonecoaching.ca/" target="_blank">Life Coach</a> who, among other things, specializes in working with those with Asperger&#8217;s Syndrome and their partners, relatives, or friends. A.J. has 6 years experience as a<a href="http://phoenixrisingpublications.ca/Category/Life_Coaching/" target="_blank"><strong> Life Coach</strong></a><strong> </strong> and works with clients from all over the world.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[What is the impact of Jenny McCarthy's experience with her son Evan wherein, according to McCarthy, her son is cured? Is he cured? Do people with autism or Asperger's want to be cured? Is it something that needs fixing?



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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: justify;">What is the impact of Jenny McCarthy&#8217;s experience with her son Evan wherein, according to McCarthy, her son is cured? Is he cured? Do people with autism or Asperger&#8217;s want to be cured? Is it something that needs fixing?</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Jenny McCarthy, a self-professed advocate for her son Evan, who was diagnosed with Autism, and for other children who have been or will be diagnosed with autism, has written a memoir about her experience &#8220;Louder Than Words: <em>A Mother&#8217;s Journey In Healing Autism</em>&#8220;</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">The main thrust of McCarthy&#8217;s memoir, aside from telling the story of a very dedicated mother who has fought hard for her autistic son, centers around what McCarthy terms Evan&#8217;s &#8220;recovery&#8221;.</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">McCarthy, appearing on The View, Live with Regis and Kelly, Oprah, and Larry King to name the shows I saw her on, in each interview first spoke of Evan as recovered from autism. She would then, later in each interview, sort of back track from the word &#8220;recovery&#8221; and point out that while Evan does now attend a regular school and interacts much better and so forth, he does still have challenges.</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong></strong><strong>What is the impact, generally, of this on those with Asperger&#8217;s Syndrome?</strong></p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">This might be a very difficult thing to assess. However, the specific autistic challenges that McCarthy&#8217;s memoir deals directly with the journey that the intervention strategies, treatments, and interventions, of more &#8220;classically autistic children&#8221; require. While not agreed upon by all professionals totally, there are doctors who support McCarthy&#8217;s strategies and results. Though the doctor who was on with her on Larry King was careful to say that results of these treatments vary widely in autistic children and the reasons for that aren&#8217;t fully understood. It is agreed, however, that the earlier these alternative treatments are attempted the greater the likelihood of favourable results.</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">It seems to me that to some significant extent a lot of what is being fought for by McCarthy and others for their autistic children are things that most children with Asperger&#8217;s Syndrome don&#8217;t ever lose (totally). Things like some eye contact, speech, the ability, (on a wide spectrum that varies in degrees) to be able to relate and be interactive. The question that begs asking here is do those with Asperger&#8217;s even require the same intervention? Will they benefit from the same things that McCarthy&#8217;s son did?</p>
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<h3><strong>What is the impact, specifically, of this on those who are adults with Asperger&#8217;s?<br />
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<p style="text-align: justify;">I know for myself, speaking as an adult with Asperger&#8217;s who didn&#8217;t find out until I was 40 years old, it personally causes me a little bit of grief. Grief that I didn&#8217;t find out I had AS when I was a child. Grief that as a female much of what I was caused difficulty by was even more invisible than it is for most young aspie boys.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Grief that causes me to wonder, briefly, how would my life have been different &#8211; or if in fact it would have been different &#8211; if in fact it would have been different &#8211; if I had a mother who went to bat for me (which I did not have at all) like McCarthy has for her son. Grief just thinking about the what-ifs which is not a place I recommend any adult with AS stay in long. But it is only human to go there at times.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Self-reflection on these feelings and this grief, I think is necessary at times, for greater self-understanding, and in the end, a greater self-acceptance too.</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">How it impacts me, as someone on the specturm, who has Asperger&#8217;s is that I wonder about the quest to normalize autistic children. It&#8217;s a catch-22 of sorts. It hits at the question, are we all supposed to be the same? How does this desire and/or quest to make every child &#8220;normal&#8221; effect the way that we value or fail to value inherent differences? Does it send a message that what is perceived and defined by<br />
many as a <em><strong>disability</strong></em> is a <em>less than</em> way of being. This is an attitude that leads to discrimination and marginalization of inherent worth.</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">McCarthy&#8217;s memoir, <strong>&#8220;Louder than Words&#8221;</strong> does tell a compelling story. It does offer hope for a growing number of parents and their autistic children. The statistics now say that 1 in 150 children will be diagnosed with Autism. Those numbers keep rising. Autism, in all its forms, is an epidemic, in North America for sure, and perhaps also in other countries.</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">As an adult with Aspeger&#8217;s Syndrome, however, it feels like a catch-22 of sorts to me &#8211; this entire issue of <em>getting the most autism out of a child</em> type of thing. For me being on the autistic spectrum continues very much to be an on-going paradox.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">It has its amazing aspects and it has its challenging, frustrating, and still at times, painful and/or emotionally difficult aspects for sure. The question that comes up for me is would I really want to be changed now if that was possible or ever to be possible? I think, in spite of everything, my answer is &#8211; no. I have come to value my differences. I have come to find ability from the depths of what are challenges and inherent differences between myself and those who are neuro-typical (NT). In other words I am finally finding peace with being who I am. I am who I am in all that means. Asperger&#8217;s is not the some total of who I am but it is an important part of who I am.</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">I know that the important distinction (perhaps among many others) between Asperger&#8217;s and more profound manifestations of autism &#8211; or classic autism &#8211; has a lot to do with the differences that those of us with Asperger&#8217;s have in terms of being verbal, being able to communicate and not being &#8220;classically trapped&#8221; in a separate totally internal and separate world. However, I will make the point that there are times in my life, even now, when while I might know differently intellectually, there are times when being an aspie, primarily in the social arena, leaves me feeling like I know a little bit about what it might like to be that more classically autistic child. Socialization, is still, at times, and in many ways, for me, not at all like I&#8217;ve heard it described by NT&#8217;s and it can still cause frustration, pain, and lostness. But, as this is my own personal journey through this life, I take it that there is great purpose, even in that.</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">I do at the same time very much recognize the battle and the validity and important of this battle for these more &#8220;classically autistic children&#8221; however. Many of them are reported to seem rather normal until a certain age (or set of circumstances &#8211; some believe after vaccinations for example) when suddenly they withdraw inward and they stop communicating, stop making eye contact and more and more are lost inside of themselves in more profound forms of &#8220;classic autism&#8221;. To be saved from being trapped within I think is huge and important. To be helped to be able to communicate and to interact &#8211; to whatever degree &#8211; can make a life with autism much more liveable, especially for those around that child who love and want and need to interact with them.</p>
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<li><a href="http://phoenixrisingpublications.ca/item.php?itemId=80&amp;category=6" target="_blank">Inside My Asperger&#8217;s Experience</a></li>
<li><a href="http://phoenixrisingpublications.ca/item.php?itemId=43&amp;category=7" target="_blank">Asperger&#8217;s Syndrome and Adulthood From The Inside Out Ebook</a></li>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">The interesting thing in all of this too, in my opinion, is that much of what McCarthy talks about has having helped her son Evan, the wheat and gluten free diet, and addressing the yeast in his system, for example, along with the other methods used to &#8220;rehabilitate&#8221; him, referred to still as <em>alternative treatments,</em> do not work the same for all children with autism. Even all the children who are now able to take advantage of what McCarthy did for her son, the results vary widely. I wonder what information, if any, this fact, may well yield that may shed more light on the issue of whether or not what McCarthy&#8217;s son and others like him have actually experienced. Is it recovery? Does it have to do with the degree to which they were autistic? Can this be measured? It seems in many ways, for me, to raise more questions than this held out &#8220;cure&#8221; actually provides.</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">And another question that crosses my mind is of course related to causation. Can autism really be cured without knowing what causes it? What leaves one child classically or more profoundly autistic and the next with Asperger&#8217;s Syndrome, for example? Is it a case of different causes?</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">Is Jenny McCarthy and her son Evan&#8217;s journey revolutionary? Is it more typical than is known? Will it become more typical? Is it too cost prohibitive for way too many families?</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">And of course, I have to add here again, that there needs to be services and supports put in place for adults no matter where they fall on the autistic spectrum. Not every parent as McCarthy&#8217;s fortitude, reserve, or even financial choices. Not all autistic children treated like Evan will have the same outcome. Therefore, it is not just adults with AS that need services and supports because today&#8217;s aspie kids and  autistic kids will be tomorrow&#8217;s invisible adults on the autistic spectrum for whom service is only a wished-for thing and certainly is not, in reality, tangible in any meaningful way.</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: justify;">There is a legacy left in the wake of childhood and adolescence lived unknowingly superimposed upon what is the foundational hard-wiring of difference and social disconnectedness that are central to the reality and scope of Asperger&#8217;s Syndrome and that form different ways of thinking and perceiving that are outside the ebb and flow of the landscape of the stratum of social terra firma. A legacy of defectiveness that my personhood was engulfed in and defined by through the judgment of the NT masses.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">A legacy created by the reality of not having been diagnosed and informed so many years ago.</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">When the way one thinks, perceives, and experiences the world is then challenged and one is labeled  weird, bullied by others for their differences as I was as a child, the legacy is one of ominously oppressive observation that leads to a negative association of all that it means to be who one really is. Being who I was as a kid was definitely not okay for so many reasons. Reasons that all these years later are all befuddling and bound together into one heterogeneous conglomeration of massive weighty wearisome foreboding familiarity.</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">Never mind the underlying reality of the social impairment of Asperger&#8217;s Syndrome the obliteration of any competent feelings of esteem and worth for who I was were annihilated. I fell of the wheel of life. Little did I know all those years ago that the wheel of social life that it felt like I actually fell off of was one that I never truly got to ride in the first place.</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">The reality of the social impairment and disconnectedness of the Asperger&#8217;s that existed underneath all of my experience unbeknown to me until I was 40 was formidable and painful and has definitely left in its wake an aching of longing as a legacy in my life. A longing that has been misleading. A longing that really wasn&#8217;t ever mine. A longing for all that I was told I was supposed to want, supposed to be, supposed to do and supposed to achieve, learn and be adept at. The longing was driven by how others defined me. It was driven by what others thought was who I should be, how I should be, what I should be interested in, what I should and should not pursue.</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong><em>This long-enduring legacy in my life &#8211; this Asperger reality &#8211; cast a wide dubious and damaging shadow over my perception and experience in life and my psychological understanding of myself. There is nothing short of heart-ache associated with the great lengths that I went to try to pretend to be normal. I so tried to be what I thought it was that everyone else was. I failed miserably all over the place, and in each and every stage of life. (socially)</em></strong></p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">As an aside but also illustrative of the legacy of this hidden Asperger reality in my life, I was a lesbian growing up not knowing that, either, in a world that tried to teach me what my role as a taken-for-granted heterosexual woman was expected to be &#8211; that I would grow up, get married, and have children. When none of those things were unfolding in my life in my early and mid-twenties I can liken that experience somewhat to finding out about having Asperger&#8217;s and to having been banging my head on my Asperger wall as hard and as often as I pounded my psyche into the wall of sub-par woman for not getting married or having 2.5 children, to say nothing of the dog and the white picket fence.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">I have managed the dog but that&#8217;s all of that dream that I was told I wanted that I could make come true. After all it was never my dream. It was society&#8217;s expectation of me. It meant I was flying in the face of a cultural norm. That&#8217;s lonely territory, but barely when compared to being socially clueless at the hands of what was most of my life a well-hidden and totally unrealized and overlooked enigmatic entity &#8211; Asperger&#8217;s Syndrome.</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">Legacy handed down from the past. A past in which a neuro-typical world tried to ram this round peg into its square hole over and over again. That took its toll. Legacy, the word, can also pertain to old or outdated computer hardware, software, or data that while it still may well function, does not work well with more up-to-date systems. That&#8217;s how I feel in a way. I feel that I do still function and in a way I have always functioned but much like an old computer functions, in a very tossed aside and not appreciated kind of way. I function differently from the NT masses just as an older computer functions differently than a newer one. It may not be adept at all the new bells and whistles of its social and user-friendly software but leave it to its own device, literally, and it will still get its job done, in its own way and its own time.</p>
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<h3><strong>Falling Off The Merri-go-round of Life &#8211; A Ride I Wasn&#8217;t Ever Really On</strong></h3>
<p style="text-align: justify;">My childhood was a world unto its own in so many ways as I look back on it. I remember my first day at grade school, kindergarten, I was four, almost five years old. I had been led to school by a neighbour girl after my mother had asked her mother if she would take me to school that day. This girl, who lived down the road was all of five. She was however more schooled in the ways of the world than I was. As we arrived at the school yard I was lost. I felt as if it all wasn&#8217;t really real. It was too much. Loud yelling and playing and screaming. Too many voices. Too much noise. The sun was so bright. I felt hot. I felt dizzy. I felt overwhelmed. None of those feelings were foreign to me, even at the age of four. I felt exhausted and the really alarming part of my day was yet to unfold.</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">With all of this play on the playground, all of the frantic mind-numbing activity, suddenly there was this very loud bell that sent a shrill pain of panic right through me. I didn&#8217;t know what was happening to me then or why. I just ran. I bolted. I took off. I ran all the way home and in record time. That was it. I was four and already I had enough of this <strong>normal</strong> life out in the what was such a foreign world to me. That bell had just blown a hole clear through any sense of being that I might of had. It had assaulted my entire existence.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">I was of course dragged back to school, kicking and screaming by my mother. Once the bell was explained to me I learned to live with it. But, I could only live with it after I had made a point of knowing when it would go off and paying particular attention to that. I would worry about it and anticipate it long before its scheduled two rings each day. I managed to survive the bell ringing because I was able to plug my ears and somewhat protect myself from its daily assault on my being.</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">School, the merri-go-round work of childhood, was for me the very un-amusing ride off of which I fell abruptly, brutally and in many lasting ways. It made little sense to me for so long because I love information and I always loved to learn. I just could rarely go a whole day at school with all the stimulation, noise, and light that assaulted my senses in ways I had no reference point from which to understand.</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">As l recall from my childhood, while things were never really alright in my world, those shaky anxiety-producing experiences morphed into monumental trepidation of mammoth proportions when it was time, at the age of 12, to go from grade school to junior high school. It was a change I simply could not and did not cope with. I never knew why. From that point on I was on a mission to just opt out of what my imposed daily routine was. I had no way to cope with all the things that inundated me endlessly in all of the chaos that was class after class in sprawling buildings (we moved twice when I was in my two years of junior high) that I could never master finding my way around in.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Ironic that I would often get lost as I did in high school too. The getting lost just added to the reality of the fulility of even trying to be there at all. My school struggles left me feeling so damaged, so less than everyone else. I never dated in high school. I didn&#8217;t have friends at school and except for answering the odd question asked of me by teachers most days the whole day would go by and I wouldn&#8217;t utter a word. I talked to no one. I was suffering and suffering badly in so many ways. Some ways I found out about in my early 30&#8217;s as I dealt with mental health issues but I wasn&#8217;t really going to be able to put it all together in a way that imperfectly as hell made perfect sense until, at the age of 40, I found out that I had Asperger&#8217;s Syndrome.</p>
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<li><a href="http://phoenixrisingpublications.ca/item.php?itemId=80&amp;category=6" target="_blank">Inside My Asperger&#8217;s Experience Audio Program</a></li>
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<h3 style="text-align: justify;"><strong>When It Hurts &#8211; And it Does Hurt </strong></h3>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Though I did not know I had Asperger&#8217;s Syndrome, as I said above, until I was 40 years old there was always its palpable pain present in my persecutory experience of what it meant to just fight to exist. So often so much hurt. The lights at school hurt. The cafeteria noise hurt so much I retreated to eating my lunch alone in the washroom.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">I just couldn&#8217;t relax enough amid the noise and lights of the cafeteria to actually swallow food in there. The pressure of doing what everyone else was doing also really got to me. The socialization that was everywhere confused and overwhelmed me. I never really knew what to do.</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">I have lived in a world of hurt. When I could retreat to my own world I could find relief from most of my hurt. I would then only have to endure the enigma of my weirdness. The consternation of the judgment of others that I was beginning to impose upon myself. The reality that I wasn&#8217;t cutting it. The fact that all I knew I wanted and needed was my quiet dark room. My own world and to be left alone in it.</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong><em>When it hurts I wonder, where is it I go? When it hurts I wonder, where is it that I am? When it hurts I wonder where have I always been? When it hurts it puts me in touch with the infinitely  infallible precision with which I have always been here. Here, under all of this pain. Under all of the &#8220;supposed to&#8217;s&#8221; and feelings of being different and weird.</em></strong></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong><em>Here, I have always been &#8211; here. Way down deep under it all. Under it all. So under it all. Under the constriction of trying to pretend I was normal. Under the negation of not knowing how to be who I really am instead of who everyone has tried to tell me I &#8220;should&#8221; be.</em></strong></p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">What kept me so under it all was really not knowing or understanding what &#8220;it&#8221; really was or that &#8220;it&#8221; was there and that &#8220;it&#8221; had so much influence and meaning in my life. It &#8211; Asperger&#8217;s Syndrome &#8211; was defining much of my perception (socially) and my experience in life (emotionally) and I didn&#8217;t even know it.</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">I think I get now, at the age of 50, that when I was flooded with such grief and utter despair that caused me to feel hopeless and suicidal for the better part of my 44th year &#8211; a year I spent actually trying to come to terms with having been told I had Asperger&#8217;s Syndrome four years earlier &#8211; wasn&#8217;t as much about all that I&#8217;d come through that had to do with mental health issues as I had originally thought.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">There was that for sure. There was a sense of loss that I had worked so hard to become mentally healthy and to recover from so much &#8211; I wanted to be normal &#8211; damn-it &#8211; only to come to this brick wall of &#8220;you-are-never-going-to-be-normal-period &#8211; Asperger&#8217;s Syndrome.</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">Okay I relent, I surrender, I am not ever going to be <strong><em>normal</em></strong> That is finally okay. I radically accept that. I did, however, in reaching to be <strong><em>normal</em></strong> recover and heal from major mental health issues and I can honestly say that it was my quest to be <strong><em>normal</em></strong> that led me to the gift of average mental health &#8211; nonetheless. There are truly serendipitous blessings in all things.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Life has taught me so many times the hard way that it is important to note and notice and be grateful for all the times we do so much for one thing, that we can&#8217;t have or may never attain, but that in those efforts, there are other rewards. Rewards in the way of increased awareness that answers questions that we didn&#8217;t even know we had &#8211; the questions that even if we could have more awareness we&#8217;d likely be far too afraid to ever ask.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Questions that when understood by the unveiling of their unasked for answers solve the riddles we had yet to even ponder in any consciously-aware way.</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">This is why I have come to be a firm believer that it is so important to learn to live the questions. Living the questions of our lives and ourselves and our pain leads us to answers that we have no reference point for which to search until our experience in life unfolds in the form of questions. Questions arise when we meet with obstacles.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><em><strong>Obstacles are not stop signs. </strong></em></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">In my experience obstacles are detour signs that take us down the highways of life that will yield us the bounty that we really need to uncover in our lives. If I had not been led down the scenic highway of having been sexually abused, raised in a dysfunctional abusive family, and having been diagnosed with a personalty disorder I would not have even been on the car in search of the <strong><em>normal</em></strong> whose yield to me, though it fell short, was not only average mental health but also the revelation of Asperger&#8217;s Syndrome in my life.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Asperger&#8217;s Syndrome the one remaining piece of the puzzle of my life. The left over lost legacy of what it means to truly be who I am.</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">But even more so than that dream I had to be <strong><em>normal</em></strong> the despair and the grief had an entirely different layer to it. I have just recently and slowly uncovered this layer. I am still uncovering it and really I may always be in some stage of its further being uncovered. This layer has all to do with the painful experiences of my childhood and adolescence.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Experiences that were enriched through their ability to cause me pain, in retrospect, no doubt, because I have Asperger&#8217;s Syndrome and I had no way, then to know that, as I know it now.</p>
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<h3 style="text-align: justify;"><em><strong>I had not yet been formally introduced to my Asperger wall of pain or its unending burdens and blessings in my life. There it was, my Asperger wall, stone cold, thick, inpenetrable, my worst enemy and my best friend.</strong></em></h3>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">For years I had no reference point for the foundation of my difference or for this wall that I would slam into over and over again. A wall, my Asperger wall, that I still do slam into with predictable regularity.</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">It is my Asperger wall that holds the very sacred parameters of my ability or lack thereof to find my way in the social sphere of life. As I continue to push the limits of my own social impairment and social disconnectedness I continue to not only hit my Asperger wall, but I get to know a little better each and every time I hit it. I learn just a little bit more about the nature of the pain of being one way in the world, autistic, and of being constantly expected to be another way &#8211; neuro-typical. There are so many lessons that fall to the foot of my Asperger wall where I sit, from time to time, crying and still trying to make sense of it all.</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">My Asperger wall is a sacred and paradoxical reality. It is the lighthouse of my limitations and the harbinger of all my potential to continue to find compensatory coping strategies that little by little do in some ways broaden the horizons of even my social understanding along with my ever-deepening understanding of who I really am and how okay that really is.</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">© <a href="http://ajmahari.ca" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">A.J. Mahari</span></a> December 2, 2007 &#8211; All rights reserved.</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: justify; font-family: Trebuchet MS;">How should neuro-typicals (NT) treat those with Asperger&#8217;s Syndrome (AS)? Whose responsibility is it to ensure that communication is constructive and/or clear? Is it all up to those who do not have Asperger&#8217;s Syndrome to make things somehow better in relating for those with Asperger&#8217;s?</p>
<p style="text-align: justify; font-family: Trebuchet MS;">Is it the responsibility of those who are Neuro-Typical (NT) to ensure that the person (or persons with AS) that they are relating to feel comfortable all the time? What are NT’s supposed to do? What NT’s shouldn’t have to do is take full responsibility for any and all relating communicating, or socializing with an adult with Asperger’s Syndrome.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify; font-family: Trebuchet MS;">I received several emails on this subject from NTs, that in many different ways were all asking, <em>How should you treat people with Asperger’s Syndrome? What should we do?</em></p>
<p style="text-align: justify; font-family: Trebuchet MS;">Let me respond, firstly, by saying that how those with Asperger’s Syndrome <em>should</em> be treated is not necessarily so different from how each and every one of us would be best served to strive to treat each other generally.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify; font-family: Trebuchet MS;">The ways in which we all need to strive to treat each other include being kind, caring, compassionate, understanding, non-judgmental, with respect and dignity, and as inclusive as possible and so on.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify; font-family: Trebuchet MS;">With particular respect to those with Asperger’s Syndrome the first thing to consider is whether or not you are interacting with a child, teen, or adult. The way in which you interact with a child or a teen varies<br />
greatly, generally, and this is true of those with AS also.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify; font-family: Trebuchet MS;">Of course, relating to an adult, then would differ somewhat (AS or NT) from the ways that we relate to children or teens. Adults, even with AS, have much more responsibility to be a part of the building of the<br />
foundation from which interaction can take place between two adults, whether that’s one NT and the AS adult or two AS adults or what have you.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify; font-family: Trebuchet MS;">While there are definite and varied styles and degrees to which socializing, or relating is accepted, understood, or wanted by those with AS, it is important to keep in mind the individual strengths and weaknesses of the person you are wanting to relate to. This would be the case whether someone has AS or not.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify; font-family: Trebuchet MS;">While there is no doubt that in most, if not all cases, of adults with Asperger’s communication with others in a relational or <em>social</em> context can be stressful, difficult, and often time-consuming, I don’t believe that those who are NT should be expected to bend over backwards all the time to try to ensure the comfort level of the person with Asperger’s.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify; font-family: Trebuchet MS;">Each adult with Asperger&#8217;s has to find his or her own way to comfort within a relational context. This can be done. The degree to which each adult with Asperger&#8217;s will want to relate or how often or how intensely varies greatly.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify; font-family: Trebuchet MS;">Personally, I do know that those who get to know me or who are closest to me do have to learn about what Asperger&#8217;s is and what that means and then learn more specifically how Asperger&#8217;s manifests in my relating and communicating. I think that just as those of us with AS continue to try to learn more about what NTs want and need and why, the same is true of NTs needing to learn more about what those of us with Asperger&#8217;s (individually) need and want and how it is that we process information differently, the reality of social challenges, and the ways in which having Asperger&#8217;s does impact relating.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify; font-family: Trebuchet MS;">It is important for those with AS to learn how to open up and trust a friend or partner with the vulnerable places where he or she may need to explain more to an NT to be understood and/or ask for help or information about how to best give the NT what they need. I ask those that I relate to if I&#8217;m being understood and I listen to them when they give me feedback as to what they may need that I don&#8217;t know to give without being cued to do so. Being open to being cued and then doing<br />
your AS best to give is also very important.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify; font-family: Trebuchet MS;">Ideally, compromise and openness to understanding how the individual person you are relating to with AS would feel most comfortable is a very welcome and kind thing to keep in mind. Just as those with AS, wherever and whenever possible need to continue to learn how to reach out to those who are NT and try to find some common ground from which to relate. This ensures that both parties have opportunities to be heard, understood, and feel included and respected.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify; font-family: Trebuchet MS;">There may well be some concessions that will help make relating to someone with Asperger’s more accessible than not realizing that some more give (at times – yes maybe often) may be necessary on the part of those who are NT. However, that said, I personally believe, as an adult with Asperger’s myself, that it is my responsibility to work at finding and balancing my own comfort level in interaction with others. I do not believe communication (especially in friendships and relationships) will be effective for everyone if only one person is making all the efforts at creating a comfortable interaction.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify; font-family: Trebuchet MS;">Often relating to those of us with AS will require more patience on the part of NT’s. It would be counterproductive to apply pressure or to have certain expectations as to how someone with AS will communicate or relate or socialize with you (NT’s).</p>
<p style="text-align: justify; font-family: Trebuchet MS;">While that kind of consideration and effort is kind, caring, and compassionate and has its importance for those with AS it is important that NT’s (and those with AS) realize that the NT is not wholly responsible for all things communication-wise and so forth. Bridges must be built and responsibility for interacting must be shared to whatever level of sharing those with AS can achieve. Some with AS will be much stronger at this sort of thing than others.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify; font-family: Trebuchet MS;">So, basically, being kind and understanding and accepting are very important. However, remembering that you are not responsible for any entire interaction/communication/socialization with an adult with AS and that treating them like the person that they are and with respect is the most important thing.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify; font-family: Trebuchet MS;">Sometimes, for many with AS, the more intense any relational or social experience is the more stress they may have and the more they will have to deal with their difficulties. This is, however, something that most just want to be accepted in spite of for who they are. Most with AS do not want to be treated in such a way that would see the NT denying their own needs and wants and comfort needs and so forth.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify; font-family: Trebuchet MS;">We come from different worlds in the relational/social spheres and it is important to be as inclusive as possible and as accepting as possible. Patience always helps too. Require as much reciprocity as the adult<br />
with AS, in your life, is able to give.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify; font-family: Trebuchet MS;">Just as those with AS want to feel some comfort level in interacting with others (and this is often difficult and stressful) those who are NT need also to ensure that they can find a comfort zone when relating to someone with AS.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify; font-family: Trebuchet MS;">We are different, just as are all individuals different in general too. Each one of us as human beings requires that we be seen for who we are and accepted for who we are. This applies to those with AS and those who are NT. This is common ground upon which to build foundations of communication.</p>
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